Towers of Midnight Speculation Thread (Spoilers for tGS)

[Kathana Trevalaer]

Let's keep all the speculation on WoT 13 in here for now. Otherwise, this forum is going to get crazy cluttered. We'll open up an official forum for Towers of Midnight after The Gathering Storm has been in release for a few months.

[Asha'man Kovan]

Towers of midnight. Seems to me like it's an obvious reference to either The Black Tower or the Seanchan attack on the White Tower. Or maybe even both. Probably both actually. Since it's "Towers", plural.

[Bloody-this-flaming-that!]

Honestly, at this point they could call it " Balony on Rye" And I'd still buy it!...and the prologue....and the paperback....and whatever else they tell me to!

seriously though, cool title although it does make me draw comparisons to LOTR being the second novel referring to towers and all.

[Lambada]

Weren’t The Towers of Midnight a Seanchan thing.

I seem to recall it being said that the Aes Sedai who invented the a’dam screamed screams that “shook the towers of midnight” when she was collared.

I smell a Matt/Tuon plotline.

[Asha'man Kovan]

Weren’t The Towers of Midnight a Seanchan thing.

I seem to recall it being said that the Aes Sedai who invented the a’dam screamed screams that “shook the towers of midnight” when she was collared.

I smell a Matt/Tuon plotline.

Tower of Ravens.

[Lambada]

Weren’t The Towers of Midnight a Seanchan thing.

I seem to recall it being said that the Aes Sedai who invented the a’dam screamed screams that “shook the towers of midnight” when she was collared.

I smell a Matt/Tuon plotline.

Tower of Ravens.

Hmm Tower of Midnight according to http://wot.wikia.com - TGH ch.40 apparently. Is anyone able to check? I don't have my book with me.

[Balefire to da face!]

I've heard several suggestions put forth, perhaps it's all of them mixed into a general theme?

Midnight - darkest hour for the Light

Towers - Tower of Genji involving Moiraine's rescuse, the White and Black Tower shenanigians, AND the seven towers of Malkier being the banner that will unify the borderlands into a strike on the Blight.....

These are all major plot points that are open right now that could culminate in the second to last book before A Memory of Light and all out Tarmon Gaidon.....

Kovan: I checked. I am not gonna type it all out, but it's the chapter where Eg is being captured by the Seanchan, and the Seanchan is telling the story of how the a'dam was created. And when the creator of the a'dam was leashed herself her screams "shook the Towers of Midnight.

So yeah, either a coincidence, adding to the general them of "towers", or we are gonna have a lot of Seanchan time in ToM.....

[Asha'man Kovan]

Weren’t The Towers of Midnight a Seanchan thing.

I seem to recall it being said that the Aes Sedai who invented the a’dam screamed screams that “shook the towers of midnight” when she was collared.

I smell a Matt/Tuon plotline.

Tower of Ravens.

Hmm Tower of Midnight according to http://wot.wikia.com - TGH ch.40 apparently. Is anyone able to check? I don't have my book with me.

Yeah, you're right. I don't know. That was what they were called back in Hawkwings day though, so maybe the name changed or something. Or maybe when RJ called them that he wasn't planning on a book being written with the title after them?

[Kathana Trevalaer]

It could also be an oblique reference to the Black Tower.

[Asha'man Kovan]

It could also be an oblique reference to the Black Tower.

Could be. Just the fact that it's Towers in plural form means to me something about the Black Tower and the White.

[Lambada]

Hmm Tower of Midnight according to http://wot.wikia.com - TGH ch.40 apparently. Is anyone able to check? I don't have my book with me.

Yeah, you're right. I don't know. That was what they were called back in Hawkwings day though, so maybe the name changed or something. Or maybe when RJ called them that he wasn't planning on a book being written with the title after them?

Again according to wot.wikia Tower of Ravens is in Seandar, Seanchan Capital, a prison and HQ of the seekers. Whereas ToM is in Imfarel - the main base until Seandar was taken in the consolidation.

So perhaps they are equivalent just in different times and places as you suggested - both seem to be prisons or some kind.

Perhaps it will deal with (the invading?) Seanchan as a whole learning about the 'sul'dam can channel' secret? It is afterall the only thing that has been linked to ToM in the series.

[Asha'man Kovan]

Hmm Tower of Midnight according to http://wot.wikia.com - TGH ch.40 apparently. Is anyone able to check? I don't have my book with me.

Yeah, you're right. I don't know. That was what they were called back in Hawkwings day though, so maybe the name changed or something. Or maybe when RJ called them that he wasn't planning on a book being written with the title after them?

Again according to wot.wikia Tower of Ravens is in Seandar, Seanchan Capital, a prison and HQ of the seekers. Whereas ToM is in Imfarel - the main base until Seandar was taken in the consolidation.

So perhaps they are equivalent just in different times and places as you suggested - both seem to be prisons or some kind.

Perhaps it will deal with (the invading?) Seanchan as a whole learning about the 'sul'dam can channel' secret? It is afterall the only thing that has been linked to ToM in the series.

I just feel like that would be too easy lol. Naming the book after a specific place and then the book actually being about that specific place. I don't know...I don't like the idea of that for whatever reason. So I'm sticking with it being an abstract reference to the BT and WT. The whole Nicola fortelling or something to do with that.